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Great video! I just finished the Riven remake, and wanted to scroll back to see what others were saying about the games. We also grew up with Humongous Entertainment games and the Myst series. PJ Sam and Riven are both masterpieces in my book. I'm sorry you feel like you missed out on the Myst/Riven initial hype. What's important is that you're here now, and it sounds like you did it with a group of friends, which is awesome! Your final analogy of the game as a dying world was poignant. Riven was a real place for many of us, but once it's over, as with most puzzle games, we can never truly return

I still remember when it first came out, reading a review of chrono cross in EGM or whatever I used to subscribe to. They gave it a 10/10...maybe the only one I've ever seen

Played the original in '97 or '98. Playing the remake currently. Outer Wilds is worth your time. Like crazy worth your time. The things you're saying about Riven are the things people say about Outer Wilds. Do NOT spoil it for yourself, just get it and play it.

Only 30mins in but kinda surprised the soundtrack hasn't been mentioned yet.

I could not agree more with you that the NES has literally NO good games that weren't remade better later on a different system.

Still cant listen to the S;G ost without getting emotional, that anime had such an impact on me

I can relate to Henry. I'm stuck here and there is no escape

Mages can use staffs and rods that cast spells for free btw, and running 4 rdm is easy and cheap to stack spells on all of them anyway

There's only four things I dislike about the game... 1) job adjustment phase (and the mp to zero / elixir waste thing) 2) crystal tower + xande + 4 dark crystals + final boss all in one go. Pretty sure most people will just escape every battle if they die just to get back quicker to where they were. Simulated difficulty and annoying. Just drop a save before Cloud of Darkness and make it as hard as you want 3) when you get the final "op" jobs you already have a bunch of jobs almost level 99 so weaken yourself if you wanna equip them and spend hours catching back up. The final boss can be beaten easily with whm + 3 warriors at JL99 spamming advance 4) Mini/Toad sections

Not commonly known ...chrono cross is not sequel to trigger. Stated by the developers .they Just share some similarities

Chrono cross is fantastic. The ending of the game when you realize the entire world you where playing in was a by product of a scientific experiment always stuck with me. Very cool

I had to fight my own dragons as I came of age, the ultimate fantasy game is our own reality. Playing all these great games helped me to see that. This one is still on my shelf.❤

it's pronounced Townssend

Okay it has a completely different atmosphere, but have you played outer wilds? If not you should.

Riven is being remade now, and it will be amazing to revisit that world in VR. I am so excited to see that.

I love Chrono Cross. I've never beaten Trigger, but I've beat Cross multiple times. I bought it immediately on Switch and played through it fully once again I like the fact that the story is complicated. It keeps replays interesting. And the music is amazing

Jak 2 is a master piece and its way better than Jak 1 Bye bye

Quick question. @ 1:13 is it meant to be a joke insinuating that Jak is saying "I'm gonna fuck Praxis!", or is RUclips genuinely at the stage where it's requiring video makers to censor the word "kill"?

Look at my icon, and you'll get an idea of my favorite character.

Demi-humans have been expelled from 109 fishing villages but it's totally not their fault.

It's an unpopular opinion, but Walter is my favorite villain of the series. There's something about him that makes him more chilling for me.

Loved the video. sh 4 is a good game and deserve a remaster or remake in the future .

To be fair, the Miller brothers also weren't too fond of how the ending was in retrospective 😅 it wasn't quite the emorional and moral send off they hoped it would be, they said.

Great job with these videos.

How can you turn down a free boxed copy of FF9???

Myst, Riven, and Exile all have a special place in my heart, but Riven most especially because it was a game I spent hours of my childhood trying to solve. (And find every opportunity to travel between islands because of the animations and needing to change the disk out for a different one never got old). My immediate and a little of my extended family would gather together at my cousins' house to play every new Myst entry as it released, and while I was too young to experience Riven, much less Myst, I got the distinct pleasure to join them for Exile, Revelation, and End of Ages; as well as play Myst online with my dad and sister during it's second iteration. But despite not getting to join in the festivities for Riven, I remember my dad playing some of it with me when I was very small, and then playing it on my own and getting so involved at times I even dreamed of different parts of the game and what would have happened if I were the Stranger. The Myst series is a one of a kind game franchise, and Riven in particular stands head and shoulders above the rest as a sequel. I think you did an excellent job expressing that, and it was cool to hear your persepective. I'll be interested to see if either of us plays the re-release of Riven and if you in particular end up having any thoughts on it. :)

I love Crystar and Crymachina (Hayashi's most popular games) but I always have mixed feelings regarding playing this game. The story/lore is interesting and it definitely seems to have kino moments, but the gameplay being so weird and unbalanced puts me off a bit. It would probably benefit from a remaster that fixes the issues with repetitiveness and combat, and maybe some light rewrites. (Such as the problematic content, which tbf, was probably put in by the NPC writers)

Tired of the word "masterpiece" being thrown around so much by reviewers. This game is far too convoluted for most people to enjoy. That alone, is enough to argue against this game's "masterpiece" status. A masterpiece for Cyan? Sure. A masterpiece of gaming? No.

Recently finished FF3 and I'll be honest The Pixel Remaster is SO much better than the PSP version Also I still consider Scholar pretty fine cause you can deal tons of damage with attack items

The bad news: you were only a year old when Riven came out, and you have a painful lack of nostalgia. The good news: you are still in your 20s.

Walter went through a lot of effort just to make one room permanently haunted.

"Orlha's pretty good so I guess do her" >pause< Wat >play< "stuff as well" Oh. Hm. I guess no jokes to be made.

The dwarves attacking the fairies isn't out of nowhere. They quite literally threw Razzly to the Pentapus for her to be eaten. The dwarves are very much evil. You don't even actually need to kill the hydra, you just need a phial of its humour. The reason you have to kill the Hydra is because, well, neither the Hydra nor the Dwarves will cooperate for no reason other than the Dwarves being racist. The dwarves ARE evil. The Fairies ARE stupid and emotional, and it's explicitly called out that when they calm down later they will not continue to blame humans for the dwarves' actions, because cooler heads (Rosetta and Razzly specifically) prevail on this front. They still won't apologize for blaming humans for what the dwarves choose to do mind you, but they won't continue to do so. It should be noted that racism is rampant from both sides of the human v nonhuman conflict, especially for mainland humans, and this is even straight up shown to you with the abuse of demi human workers in Termina and the fact that you spend the final dungeon actually fighting the radical environmentalist anti-human faction. The hydra isn't the last one in the world. They explicitly still exist in the Mainland. The Hydra you kill is the last one in the El Nido Archipelago, but NOT the last one in the world, IIRC it's even mentioned that the reason why you can't just get one from the Mainland is that only a huge ship can cross the passage that leads into El Nido until the tide changes. It's also a factor in both worlds that people want to explore the hydra marshes, so yes, someone will kill the Hydra even if you don't (and IIRC you can even go to the Hydra Marshes later to find a guy who tells you that his group was the one that did it). While I will absolutely agree that this part is definitely rushed and could've been done massively better, it doesn't really have any gaping plotholes, just thematic and narrative choices that kinda suck. Not even the fact that Kid gets rescued anyway, because she gets rescued by Norris, who comes from the Mainland even if it's weird that he has Hydra antivenom on him, and you meet Norris in Viper Manor in disguise as a dishwasher. This is even made explicit if you take the specific ending where Kid and Norris storm Viper Manor together. Chrono Trigger made it clear that time will generally try to sort of "self correct" so that even if things are different they will still try to develop in a somewhat similar way, so it's fair to assume that history will generally adapt to any changes you make like taking a different path to complete a goal. Really, the biggest issue is that the Dwarves are straight up evil and thus you don't feel bad for slaughtering them and in fact you feel a little bit bad for letting them go at the end if you get the "best ending" for the Dwarves/Water Dragon Isle subplot. Yes, sure, you kind of need them to protect and nurture the Hydra until it's strong enough to defend itself and support the Hydra Marshes so they don't become a poisonous swamp, but I feel like maybe introducing a friendly dwarf that tried to solve matters with peace (like, say, maybe when you go to Hydra Marshes you can find a dwarf in the marshes that you can explain the situation to, he agrees to help but gets shot down by the dwarf leader who picks a fight and eventually brings out the Hydra to fight you and you're forced to kill it in self defense), and you can only get the "Best" ending by helping that Dwarf become the new leader of the Dwarves. Hell, you can even tie it into the Razzly situation by having you meet the 'good' dwarf as he's trying to save Razzly from the Pentapus because what his fellow dwarves did to her is hella fucked up, and since he owes you his life, he pledges to support you, and the only way to get the best ending is to fight the Hydra with both him and Razzly in your party. You recruit him and with him in the party you don't have to deal with random dwarf fights, only the boss fight against the dwarf leader and his minions and then the hydra. It gives the conflict nuance, it makes it so there is no direct right or wrong, there's good dwarves, there's good humans, there's good fairies, but they all have an uphill climb because of the bad eggs of each race. Maybe having the late game water dragon isle fairies being apologetic and sorry about blaming the humans for what the dwarves did, or making it so dwarves and fairies live together after the events of Water Dragon Isle and have regular trade with Arni and communication with the Marshes, while being thankful because their isolated world has now been opened with communication from outsidsers, would work to give this a little more weight. Plus, some gameplay impact in that if you do it this way, when you come back to fight the Water Dragon, there's no monsters whatsoever and you can just talk to a fairy at the entrance to be immediately taken to the bottom to face the Water Dragon directly, or maybe the fairies open up a shop and you can buy special items or rare elements there (I dunno, maybe level 6 elements to sort of offset not having one of the best party members in the game in this route?). I feel like there's soooo much to do with this, and they do so very little with it.

"The safe thing is to start with light attacks" Young me: "FIERCE FIERCE (Element)"

I don't know how I only just now stumbled upon this video. And I'm so glad I did! I love how you explore the themes, and I'm so happy to finally hear someone speak about the politics in this game! Every other video I've seen has not touched on that, and I'm so glad you did, because it's a prominent feature and worth discussing!

did you play Obduction?

A few more weeks to go and I will be finally going back to Riven

Where was I? At my grandpa's place, checking out my uncle's computer upstairs. I think I spent that entire day just wandering the first island. I never even figured out tower rotation, I just poked things. Didn't get to any other worlds that day. I was just lost, in the experience. Sure, eventually I did do things in it. Always left the rocket until last, it could take me hours to find any of the notes on the sliders. I'd keep overshooting the exact spot on the slider, or I'd loose the note in my mind, or ... hours. But not unhappy ones.

I've got to ask. What about Uru? That odd, mmorpg myst spinoff thing?

I ask everybody here, would chrono 3 (break) have solved what this game lacked?

I love this game. I'm one of the few people I know who actually understand the timeline.

OMG, The Simpsons "say the line!" bit. 😂 I had similar thoughts. Not the best, but not bad. May never play through it again because of that underwater heater/pipe level.

Very well done and stated. This is an immense sadness when you finish Riven. There are no more secrets to uncover, and you can never play and discover Riven again for the first time. The way Cyan were able to make Riven feel like a real place inhabited by real people back in 1997 was truly special. I honestly believe it was the greatest video game ever created. I feel like I have actually visited these islands. It's nuts and very hard to explain, as your video points out. Great watch!

1 year later, Cyan has just dropped the new trailer for the Riven remake -- and as someone who was also profounding affected by playing Riven in my childhood, I'm glad Cyan is not DIRECTLY remaking Riven but instead altering and adding new things where they thought it they could go even deeper with it -- without touching the aesthetics of the game like they did with the 2021 Myst remake. The graphics and art direction look so AUTHENTICALLY and UNQUESTIONABLY Riven -- I dunno, I think it WILL be like playing for the first time all over again. And it comes out *in just a few weeks.*

You clearly love Riven just like any OG player who experienced it first in 97'. This was a great love letter to the game. The Riven remake comes out on June 25th 2024 and while it won't be the same (like you said in your video) it will hopefully take us back there and fill some of the void that was left in us from when we first played.

$4000 a month adjusted for inflation

Brilliant video man - Riven is truly a masterpiece, and largely where my love of puzzle games started. You captured that magic perfectly.

Pisses me off every time because I love Glenn and I feel bad for kidd but every time I have to ignore kidd to get Glenn.

I'm starting the game now. I've seen Steins;Gate's anime (and even made a private fan edit that plays with the dub and subs), but never really played many VNs before, just a few... this is gonna be one hell of a ride, huh